A Letter to Murray McCully – he replies


The reply to my original letter is posted here as a PDF MurraryMcCully or as a picture below,

This is a response to a letter I wrote to my MP, who had changed his mind about supporting the “same sex marriage” bill, one of ony 4 MP’s to do so in the negative way.

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I’m not convinced it’s a form reply.

I’ve let his secretary know by way of a reply what I think .

Erica

Thank you for your reply.

Please, if you would be so kind, and should the Minister care to know,  tell him that, should he be standing at the next election, he will not be receiving my vote, as he has enjoyed in the past.

Of course there are more pressing matters of Economy, Welfare, Education, Health and Security but he had it in his grasp to be someone who actually did something for everyone, and not because he has a fear and loathing of the real meaning of equality, and was cowered by sanctimonious religious bigotry.

You’ll recall I’ve been married 25 years, I’ve no axe to grind, no flag to fly, but to take a stance that it’s all equal except for some is morally bankrupt, and frankly he’s disappointed one time to many.

It might only be one vote, but it might make a difference.

Green Party launches major housing initiatives – I have some questions


Having being raised in a council house in London I have a lot of empathy for the need for state housing.  I lived in a 3 bedroom terrace house with my 7 brothers and sisters, and a dog, that’s 5 boys in one room, 3 girls in another and the parents in their own space.  I’m not convinced that families are that size any more.

The problem, as I see it, with the availability of State Houses in New Zealand is that there has been no planning and has been no foresight forever, and land was turned over to property speculators to build on as they saw fit. That there is a shortage of recently built houses  in the council stock is no surprise to anyone. Councils have not invested in their own obligation to provide housing to those that require it.

And so I’ve been intrigued by recent mumblings in the press about “affordable” housing, which is different to “State housing

Affordable housing laments that house prices are beyond the reach of many, particularly the first home buyer, the low paid, and the needy. In a supply and demand market the complaints about affordability are loudest from those in need, whilst the investor and older, or wealthier home owner have no issues with the steady climb of house prices, being as how they are on the ladder of ownership (or multiple ownership).

The Affordable housing campaign implies that people still need and should  own property, and they should own property as the backbone of their retirement savings and safety-net.

The affordable housing initiative is aimed at getting people into house ownership, it is not aimed at providing state housing stock to be rotated and used for those who need or desire state housing accommodation.

The Green Party kicked off an expanded version of their affordable housing policy here;

Here : http://www.greens.org.nz/press-releases/green-party-launches-major-housing-initiatives

The package, entitled Home for Life, contains three new policy planks:

1. Progressive Ownership will allow families that are otherwise locked out of the housing market a path way to home ownership by leveraging the Government’s low cost of capital.

Families will be able to live in a government-built home, making a basic weekly payment to cover the Crown‘s investment cost and making flexible payments in addition to that amount that purchase equity in the property off the Crown until they own the property outright.

No deposit would be required and if families moved out of the home before owning it the equity investment made to that point would be paid out.

The media says http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10861089

Under the Greens’ progressive home ownership model, the Crown would build houses for up to $300,000 which families would live in, and eventually own if they chose to. The Crown would initially own all the equity in the house because families would not need to pay a deposit.

Families would make weekly payments, similar to rent, to cover the Crown’s investment cost – $200 a week on a $300,000 house at a government bond rate of 3.5 per cent. They would make additional weekly payments to buy equity in the property until it is owned outright.

The payments would be about $100 a week, but that figure would be flexible if circumstances changed.

sortedSo I did a couple of thinks,

  • A Mortgage of 300,000 at a rate of 3.5% results, if you calculate it on a yearly basis, an interest of $10,500
  • A rental payment of $22 per week equals $10,400

The net gain would therefore be $100, the mortgage would reduce to $299,900, the equity position would be $100

A payment of $100 per week, or $5,200 per year would eventually see you own the house. But it could take 50 years.

So I went to Sorted.co.nz https://www.sorted.org.nz/calculators/mortgage-repayment

If you only made the minimum weekly payment  ($200 as mentioned above) on a $300,000 mortgage, fixed at 3.5% it would take 100 years, with the actual minimum payment of $208.

Increasing the payment to $301 sees that plummets to a 32 year mortgage

But wait……..the MSM says that the Greens appear to be saying

  • Mortgage : $415 a week plus other costs (including rates, insurance) of $50 a week = $465 a week
  • Renting $350 a week but no asset
  • Progressive ownership Basic payment of $200 a week, $100 equity payment and $50 a week for other costs = $350pw. A family who increased the amount they spent on the home by the rate of inflation would own their home outright after 25 years.

I have no idea how they are  going to deliver on that idea, that $100 equity gets them to a 25 year term when the very excellent Sorted.co.nz website says no.

There are a couple of questions though.

Who own the property, and who maintains it? If you can only just afford the minimum payment, by whichever circumstance or choice you choose, who is responsible for the maintenance of your property. The repainting of the outside, the roof, gutters etc, and the maintenance and upkeep inside, a new kitchen in 10 years perhaps, upgrade the bathroom.

What if you want to remodel “your” home?

If house prices rise by 3,5% per year every year then in 10 years the “value” of the house will be $423,179.63.  At what price is it “sold” back to the government for? Do you as the “owner” retain the $123k of paper equity gain, based on it’s cost of 300K on day one? Or do you only retain your $5,200 equity contribution (based on your adding where you can $100 per week into the payment)?

10,000 houses a year

The promise that both Labour and the Greens have made  appears to be 10,000 $300,000 houses per year for 10 years.

Are they committing to building a house for a value of $300,000 in 10 years time, when you can demonstrate that should you build that house today in 10 years it is worth, taking into account a 3.5% growth of $425K, of you take this back to a 2% growth you still get $365k.

How much smaller would you have to build a house to fit the $300,000 price tag in 10 years. ?

I’m also going to mention in passing that I’m setting aside the obvious questions like

  • Where is the available land to build 100,000 houses?
  • Where is the infrastructure that supports it?
  • Where are the jobs that support growth this size?

And the fact that as is widely discussed in the media it appears, in New Zealand, that everyone wants to own a fully detached free standing house with a patch of land, and we want this in the central city, or walking distance to the central city. We don’t want to live in less desirable neighbourhoods, and not on the city fringes. The property ladder appears to be viewed as a one step stool , not something you climb gradually.

Concluding

What can you conclude from an incomplete policy statement? The Green policy calls for the Crown to invest the Sundry/Other funds in the budget into building houses, a lot of houses. I’m no economist but given the available tools online I can’t make the maths work, either there is some cunning plan to renew the mortgage yearly somehow and not have it as a fixed term option, but it is all based on 3.5%, and an initial value of $300,000.

When a house is sold back to the crown at what price is it then sold back to the next owner at? $300,000? Which might annoy the neighbours and keep the house prices low or depressed, decrease the long term equity and provide no retirement saving nest egg? I guess you could end up with a community comprising a bunch of $300,000 slum properties that no-one wants to buy, or maintain and that fall back to State responsibility. Perhaps.

There are questions as to who own the responsibility to maintain and upkeep the housing stock, and there are questions as to where they can be built.

New Zealand will have to get used to terrace or row-houses, or multi-storey dwellings that offer little or no garden space in short order if this is ever going to get past go.

And  on a different note New Zealand is going to have to figure out where the employment opportunities come from that support such a growth.

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January started with a hiss and a roar


It seems that January has  started with a hiss and roar.

New Years day morning (just after midnight) the Father taxi to recover Daughter from the Police Station where she is reporting a stolen purse. Which means having to deal with not only the trauma of being the victim of a crime, which is horrendous the first time, but the resulting tedium of replacing drivers licences, and bank cards, and student ID‘s.  Lucky though the phone wasn’t stolen, I’m not sure what would have been the worse tragedy.

New Kitten. Having put it off for 4 months we finally succumbed to a new kitten. A gray thing, noisy boisterous and playful. Bit of a challenge for the older cat though. Comes complete with micro-chip technology and is de-sexed no more cute kittens will be possible from this one.

New Year resolutions: The exercise, I’ve started with good intentions. Still find myself over-stepping which mean sore shins. But I’m giving it a full on go, which breaks a sweat, and I’ll be into jogging and interval soon. If only the weight would be as co-operative

Kms Miles Time
4-Jan 5.14 3.17 0:45:34
7-Jan 5.28 3.26 0:46:52
9-Jan 4.68 2.89 0:51:01
10-Jan 5.11 3.15 0:48:28
14-Jan 5.72 3.53 0:48:11
16-Jan 5.52 3.40 0:47:59
19-Jan 6.92 4.27 0:58:41
20-Jan 6.6 4.07 1:00:18
21-Jan 1.05 0.65 0:09:23
21-Jan 5.48 3.38 0:49:21

The Birthday: It’s MrsPdubyahs birthday, and after so many years I’ve run out of things to buy for her. It doesn’t help that she works with ready access to perfumes and cosmetics, or that I work in IT. This means that overall we have all the gadgets and she has all the look nice things already. I’ve tried jewelry, but this year we’ve been selling some of it off as it’s only ever seen the inside of a draw. I’m not bitter that she hates the things I buy her, and I’m sure I’m in for a surprise request any day soon. I will get a card and flowers (petrol station w/glitter sparkles).

Friends: We have a good friend who’s decided it’s time to move to Wellington. This means that should we care to continue to see each other that we would have to fly to Wellington. Which suits us, as we have some family there. Something to look forward to and something to miss.

Family: Son has brought himself a budgerigar. I think this was more his girlfriend than him. Not sure why. the challenge I guess.  Daughter is attending a summer paper at University for Chemistry, that she needs for her further studies, which she’s getting closer on deciding, possibly Nutrition and Psychology, or sports science.

Still to come:

The birthday night out with MrsPdubyah, downtown at a venue TBA, it’s no use me thinking up something, I’ll play dumb and go along with it.

The beach party where we’re expected to take a plate and matching drink “from around the world” so for example Sushi and Sake, if you were a bit lame. The challenge is coming up with something that looks flash and takes 5 minutes to throw together.

Happy Families – yes you’ve left home but…..


MrsPdubyah and me, well we’re a nuclear family, 2 adults, 2 children, cat, or more correctly now 4 adults and cat.

Even more correctly 3 adults at home and one who’s left to be an adult. The only constant is the cat, and there are plans to get a kitten, it’s not a good thing.

The transition from at home to away isn’t a clear cut as you’d think. Number one son remains top of mind for MrsPdubyah.

And to be honest I’m about as bad, if not worse. #1 son tells us that they have everything they need, and that they’re saving to get the better things. Now as an aside this doesn’t appear to hold them back in the buying of needful things like DVD’s and gadgets, but that would be mean spirited of me to point out.

Anyway, my  weak moment came when I know that boy child, who has to wear safety shoes for work essentially destroyed them, and they’ve been hanging off his feet. In a moment of madness I brought him new ones. Not cheap ones mind, because they come in cheap, mid and executive . But enough.

I’m compelled however to balance this out and so I spent an equal amount, after negotiation, on upgrading the iPod for girl child.

I’m poorer and yet richer for the experience.

MrsPdubyah, you’d think would be more pragmatic. I don’t think she is.

The latest thing is a bed. Now when you’re being frugal and on a budget that would make a monk frown, what you get is what you get, and so they have what is best described as “average” by way of a bed. Lucky for boy child there is a tax rebate, and as such he’s in a position to upgrade from fleapit to actual bed.

Have you ever noticed however that everything you want is at least 10%, and often 25% or more than you want to pay.  You can get a fairly decent bed for $700, and a really decent one for $1,000 (New Zealand Peso’s) (and they are long term investment, I’m not canvassing where to buy a cheap bed) (comes with a 10 year warranty)

So in a 2-1 deal we’ll make the difference between want to spend, and what we want them to spend.

This we justify in out heads as the difference between not being able afford more than noodles for lunch, and having to cut back on chocolate to afford bread, and for a thing that makes a difference. A big thing. Sure we could provide food, but you’ve left home, fend for yourself, however in the reality of things a bed is pretty important, you spend 1/3 of your life in one asleep, and being young a significant amount more staying awake.

So we’re sticking to out guns, you’ve left home, make your own way, but just in case keep us in the loop because we’re a soft touch for some things. Not that we have to be, or that in some way what you’re doing is different to what we did when we were at the same stage of life, but we know it’s hard, and there is a difference, relative to, the amount of money you need to make a difference and don’t have, to what the same amount money means to us. In the big scheme of things.

And we’re not a soft touch, there isn’t a bottomless money pit. And can I have my credit card back please.

 

Unhappy Families – at least you can pick your friends – part the third.


I make no apology for the airing of dirty laundry and tawdry family behaviour in what follows. I’m as amazed and amused as you might be;

The cast, a family of 8;  5 boys, 3 girls :

#1 Son – Australia / #2 Son – England /  #3 Son (#6 child)  - New Zealand #4 Son (#7 child) England #5 Son (#8 child) - unknown
#1 Sister – England (#3 child) / #2 Sister (#4 child) - Norfolk / #3 Sister (#5 child) – Derby

The prequel….

  • My mother died suddenly and unexpectedly, and without a will.
  • There are 8 children, and we all live in dispersed places through the world, I’m in New Zealand, I have a brother in Australia. The rest of the family are salted throughout England.
  • Only one child, #1 sister lived in proximity to where the mother was living, in a sheltered accommodation (granny ghetto), and spent a fair amount of time with her.
  • That we were from a poor background led us to assume that the ‘estate’, such as it was, consisted only of a small amount of money in a Post Office account.
  • It was suggested, by #2 Son, and it was a good suggestion, that should the mother die then that fund should cover the cost of the funeral and anything left to go to the #1 sister.

And it turns out that on her death we know that there was at least a HSBC banking account with some money in it.

Part the Second – the waiting bit  – And this is where it went a bit wrong…….

We have a brother who for whatever reason has decided to go awol. He’s been unheard of for a few years. His choice. #1 Sister decided to tell the HSBC that there were only 7 children, which raised a few eyebrows, and caused some discussion between us, we all by consensus acknowledge his fair entitlement to inclusion in the family (As if that’s not the law anyway).  #4 son was volunteered to take things in hand and to take legal steps to become the administrator of the estate, since settling with the HSBC would have been impossible with only 7 of 8 signatures required.

A year or so (quickly) went past and I, in a fit of pique, decided to contact the family (Actually rather un-tactfully I put a post on FB) about how I was getting a bit miffed about not knowing what was happening. I got a fair old mouthful of feedback from the brothers (and wives of brothers) about how I needed to take a chill pill.

#4 son then starts to pursue vigorously the steps to become an administrator, which means swearing something or other in front of a judge or some such. Very important, and clearly it comes with a bunch of requirements and obligations, such as accounting for all the estate money, and assigning it to the right places.

#1 sister is asked, politely, to provide a statement or receipts of the money spent from the post office account (As mentioned above), as part of that. Also a general enquiry was made to the banking system to discover any other banking accounts that may have been active.

#1 sister sends a letter and at the end turns on the family

“May I remind all my family that on mum’s birthday it was agreed that as I had looked after mum for many years that when she died I would get everything when she passed. The agreement made still stands.
I do not want anything to do with anyone in my family. So you can take all the bank a/c money & stick it where the sun does not shine. Please do not bother me again.”

The list of expenses was a mish-mash of things, but included some items of dubious veracity, and an admission that about 50% of the money that was left had been taken by her for personal expenses and ”by this agreement”.

Part the third – the bit where you go mmmm…

That’s ok. That  there are some dubious expenses listed Is fine, it’s nit-picking to go over it with a fine tooth comb and be picky to the Nth degree, but does raise the hackles of the family who want at this point to have a completely fair an open understanding of what is what.

And all this is ok except for a couple of things,

  1. Not all the family made this agreement (not that it’s not a sensible and fair sounding thing).
  2. Turns out from the general enquiry to the banking system that there was another building society account ! Who knew?!

Indeed who knew? #1 sister knew and had produced a statutory declaration signed by her which stated she was legally entitled to the money, and had been paid out in full. #4 son has requested a copy of the declaration as part of his administrator status.

Follows though is a bit of  response from me and fury from #1 Son, #2 Son, and #4 Son. Along the lines that “Any agreement that was made only covered the post office account” and that a building society account was in place was unknown at the time (but not by everyone it seems). The #2 and #3 sisters have been silent on this issue so far between the whole family, they may have or may offer something to #4 son in due course.

What is clear that #1 Sister may have made a bit of a mistake. She’s clearly done something that has upset the family and gone against any spirit of agreement or understanding. It might not even be strictly legal.

From the ensuing emails the ongoing consensus seems to be at this point that

  • It’s not about the money (as if it ever was – the amounts are in reality small).
  • It’s about fair, and everyone being given the chance to say what happened to the money, and not have some arbitrary “you said in passing I could have it all”.
  • Those that have an opinion don’t think that the money is recoverable from #1 sister.
  • Those that have an opinion seem to agree that a legal recourse might be required to make a point.

I’m glad we live so far disbursed from each other, reasoned and judged emails, I think, are the way we’re going to resolve this, and resolve it we will. Can you imagine this as an afternoon meeting that you wouldn’t want to be at. I have to point out too that MrsPdubyah is convinced that there are more skeletons to uncover, such as the insurance policies that are yet to come to light.

As I get older I get different – the birthday gift from Holden – the update


Holden in Australia rang me today, well a spokesperson did, to talk about my 2009 Holden Cruze, someone in their PR department, who knows, I didn’t write his name down. Anyway…

According to the person I spoke to, and you’ll get that this is my version of his words paraphrased;

  • It’s normal for modern cars to have rotors replaced at 60,000 kms
  • The brake pads are in constant contact with the disks constantly wearing them down to keep them from warping. (for real)
  • Of course it uses rotors quicker than an older car, they’re modern, its a modern braking system. (for real)
  • Advised that the Mitsubishi Airtrek (which he’d never heard of as a model) has never had rotors and has 160,000 on the clock was because it’s older! And regardless must be lighter on the brakes because it’s a 4wd SUV
  • “Having worked for VW and other manufacturers I can assure you that this isn’t unusual” a pitiful plea from authority.
  • “You brought you car second hand, what can you expect?” (I’ve had it 2 years and done 40,000 kms, it been serviced 3 times at the same dealership, he tried to convince me that I’d only done 17,000kms nothing like research)
  • He did concede that he’d never heard of this problem, that it sounded unusual, but it was expected.
I did point out that it was a 1.8 litre, mid-sized car, not some V8 performance car. It’s a town car, a commuter car, it’s a shopping basket.

He did offer to pay 50% of the costs of the Rotors/Discs, on condition that I remove my FB wall post. I told him to email me and I’d consider it. I told him how miffed I was, and resentful that a new in-warranty vehicle was supplied from the factory with items that clearly were never going to make a warranty period. I told him that I wasn’t happy and that it was a poor excuse that he was offering up.

I will consider his email should it ever arrive. I’m happy to remove the Facebook wall post to their wall.

Really I’m ok with Tyres wearing out, I get spark plugs, oil filters, air filters, transmission oils. They’re what you expect to have changed. I’m even ok with brake pad wear at 60,000 km (although there was no indication that they were low), but I’m not ok with having to replace the rotors/discs because the man at Holden says that “it’s normal, and it’s the modern way”

Oh and Giltrap Holden North Shore are a super dealership, they really set a benchmark in customer service and go far beyond what you expect from a car dealer. Can’t recommend them enough.

Unhappy Families – at least you can pick your friends.


My mother died just over a year ago March 2011, and despite her age suddenly, and without a will.

I’m from what would now be considered a large family of 8 children (5 boys, 3 girls) and I count myself as Number Six.

#3 child, the eldest sister and her daughter remained the closest, geographically, and spent a lot of time with mother through the years.

The rest of the family dispersed itself to parts afar and wide, myself in New Zealand,  #1 Son in Australia, others to Derby, others to Norfolk, a bit all over the place really. There is even a missing person, the youngest of the family Stewart who one day just stopped talking to #3 sister( #5 child) and hasn’t been heard of since.

To say we’re not a close family is a bit of an understatement. And I bet this has never happened to anyone who lost a parent;

“When we all arrived at your mums on the day of her funeral <…>  had already cleared the property and all that was left were photographs and bric-a-brac.  Anything of any alleged monetary value was gone”

It’s difficult being so far away to be judgemental, but the anger and angst that that causes is palpable and drives a wedge in the family that doesn’t need to exist.

Trying to get even a guesstimate on the remaining monetary value of the estate (bank accounts, insurances etc) has proved impossible, everyone has a figure in mind, and they’re all different. If someone knows then they’re not saying, and trying to get a bank to disclose anything is a mission.

I know it’s only a year, and I know that resolution of someone who has dies intestate may take time to resolve. The will of the family however appears to be questionable. We’re not close (did I mention that) and by-and-large it seems that at least 5 out of the 8 children (can’t speak for the missing one) are financially not challenged enough to want to pursue this more vigorously.

My points of contention and – if you like – anger are around who’s doing what? and why are we all waiting for someone else in the family to do something?. And that someone else, why don’t they email the rest of us to tell us what’s going on? To which a couple of answers, one of which I already mentioned, financially it makes no difference.

Secondly there is a thing called “life” that gets in the way, the birthdays, the holidays, the parties. the getting on with life in general. A day becomes a week, becomes a month, becomes 3 months, it just happens. No one is to blame.

However, whilst a few hundred or a thousand pounds/dollars might not make a difference one way or another to me (or at least 4 others in the family) it might make a difference to the other 3. IT might make a difference to a charity organisation, a sheltered accommodation group, a women’s refuge. It’s just in the way you look at it as to how to decide if if makes a difference.

I fear that getting to a resolution is going to cause more rifts than it cures, and for an already estranged family it might yet get just that bit stranger.

I need to say that if my  family are reading this – it’s not about you, it’s about the way I feel about it, remember offence is taken not given, and you can choose.

On Dreams of Winning Lotto


Cabaret (musical)

Cabaret (musical) (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

I was thinking, which in and of itself is dangerous, at least this time there was nothing mechanical between my thoughts and failure. But what if you won a bundle of cash on a lotto draw. A sizable amount.

Now $1,000,000 would change your life and keep you in crayfish and caviar for a bit, but we’re talking multiple millions of dollars. real life changing amounts. With a million you’d soon run out, or at least have spent a significant amount and then you’re pretty much living your same life, except without the cheap things you used to have, unless you spent it all on crayfish and caviar and then you’d likely as have gout too.

So then, in the unlikely event that I get to win a gazillion dollars there are some ways to spend it.

Have a beer at the Guinness Factory, and at the place they make Heineken, and Leffe, and a Bath Ales, the beer drinkers equivalent at playing at St.Andrews, Augusta, etc. Dates and venues TBA :-)

I’d enjoy the months traveling in France, California and around and about on the wine trail too.

Not a lot about going back to work and keeping my steady job.

The generous of spirit me I’d also like to be able to donate amounts of money to worthy causes. So I’d imagine a scenario where I would put aside say (As an arbitrary number) $500,000 and that would allow me 10 x  50K donations, or 20 x  25K donations or even 100 x 5K donations to something. I’d be happy for instance buying new uniforms and tracksuits for a sports team somewhere knowing that it’s instant pleasure.

This isn’t to say that with the multi-millions that you wouldn’t build a hall or venue for some worthy cause, so the pocket-money donations would be the fun part.

So what would I support as a major give-away? Well Own Glenn has it about right where he pledges a dollar-for-dollar thing, so his foundation would offer $1,000,000 for instance on the proviso that the recipient garners an equivalent amount of funding from other sources. This in some way validates the cause, and mitigate any reluctance or doubt you had that it’s just a hand out.

What I’d bnever buy into is a business that I had to run, like a pub, cafe, restaurant. I think I mentioned it before getting up at 5am and working till midnight seems a bit daft. And 7 days a week? I’m sure I can find budding chefs and entertainers who would love that chance with my money,

And you know what I’d open a Cabaret place, a good old-fashioned dinner and 5 acts, comedian, dancers, singing, magic and a band. How unfashionable is that!

No Bain – No Gain – Joe Karam claimed a total of $272,822 in legal aid – now wants a share of David Bain’s compo


Beyond the HuttRiver - New Zealand today..: Joe Karam claimed a total of $272,822 in legal aid – now wants a share of David Bain’s compo…

I repost this here fully acknowledging that it was posted here

Karam Claimed 2045 hours over a 13 month period on the Bain Case

Information released by Legal Aid Services in relation to the 2009 retrial of David Bain: During the period up to and including the 2009 retrial Joe Karam claimed some $365,879 in legal aid. Of this $272,822 was in fees and $93,057 in disbursements (expenses such as accommodation, food and travel). From 22 May 2007 to 31 January 2008, Karam claimed 749 hours for which he was paid $75 per hour as an “unqualified legal executive” acting under the supervision of Michael Reed. From 1 February 2008 to 5 March 2009, Karam claimed about 2045 hours at $95 an hour. This amounts to around an average of 37.5 hours on a weekly basis, allowing for statutory holidaysbut no other time off, for a 13 month period. Karam claimed a further 235 hours for work during the retrial from 6 March 2009 to 5 June 2009. Summary:
749 hours @ $75 $56,175
2045.5 hours @ $95 $194,322
235 hours @ $95 $22,325
TOTAL
It has been suggested that any compensation awarded to David Bain would include payment for legal services to Joe karam. As you can see above, Joe karam was well-paid for his legal services – a total of $272,822 in legal aid
April 2012 Update:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10797188

Convicted killer Clayton Weatherston‘s legal aid bill has passed $440,000, with more invoices due

update : 28th April http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/6823376/Bains-legal-aid-bill-3-33m

The legal aid bill for David Bain’s retrial was $3.33m, the highest amount in legal history.

Convicted in 1995 of murdering his parents, Robin, 58, and Margaret, 50, his sisters Arawa, 19, and Laniet, 18, and his 14-year-old brother Stephen, Bain was acquitted at a 2009 retrial.

The Ministry of Justice told Radio New Zealand that the final figure for Bain’s defence was $3.33 million.

Of that amount, $2.33 million went towards the retrial costs and almost $1 million was paid for expenses in the retrial like research, investigators and forensics.

Lawyer’s fees throughout the High Court, Court of Appeal and retrial process amounted to $1.77 million of the total bill.

Bain’s lawyer, Michael Reed QC, told Radio NZ most of the costs of the retrial were to pay for overseas experts.

Bain is not receiving legal aid in his bid for compensation.