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Labour and Socialism – lurch left.

imagesI don’t vote Labour or left wing. Never have. Doesn’t mean that I can’t have an opinion on what might make me vote for them though, or ideas that might appeal to a broader range of people that may bring them back to power.

Alone. Not in some cockamamie coalition of “we’re all left wing therefore a vote for anyone one of us works” way, that ends in tears of disappointment and compromise.

Good socialism, don’t get distracted by dolphins, or oil drilling, they fall in to place when you have the minds of the people .

Don’t get me wrong they are important but they’ll fall into place when people have security, and a future to look forward to.

Idea one:

  • Promise to build state houses, say in blocks of 20 – 50. Make the local councils free up the land that they are banking or planning to sell off for profit.
  • Approach local or national business and ask them to be on board a community project, this will swing the right-wing business for profit business in behind an altruistic effort – good for them, good for the economy, good for the people.
  • Build sensible housing, of course terrace or row housing,  because modern and spacious can be achieved with modern methods.
  • Appoint a community guardian or caretaker.
  • Make them small communities, perhaps include growing plots for vegetables etc.
  • Make sure that the busses stop at the end of the street, and do so regularly. .
  • Make sure that community services people visit regularly.
  • Make sure you deal with people who want to to buck the system and not join in.
  • Make the tenancy reviewable and renewable by review, up or down, you might have to move house. In a mixed occupancy community this shouldn’t be a problem.
  • Part of the rental payable could be placed in non-fee bearing but interest bearing accounts in trust as statutory saving to get people out of state and into own home ownerships
  • Run this policy in conjunction with and parallel to kiwi-build.

Idea two: KiwiSaver from birth. And now I’m winging it on the financials, of course, but it’s an idea.

  • From birth the government contributes $1 per week into a fee-free kiwi-saver account.
  • The $1 increases to $2 in year 2, $3 in year three and so on.
  • For year 16 this is a contribution of 832, and in a non-interest bearing account would therefore be $7,072.  Not being a financial wiz I have no ice how this would work under a compound or interest bearing account. I would image than it would be more then $7,072.
  • The contribution amount could be adjusted as required to make sense in a changing economic environment. If the kiwisaver contribution amount changes then the contribution amount to kid-kiwisaver should change. Pointless ending up in 16 years with enough money to buy a cup of coffee.
  • Funds would be available for either education fees, or home-ownership.
  • Start this for all children regardless of age and at the level of contribution appropriate.  People might complain they’re disadvantaged, but that’s the wrong view, they’re being advantaged by the policy, and sure significant numbers might not achieve any benefit in the first decade. It’s long term thinking
  • Roll KidKiwiSaver into KiwiSaver if you start work and don’t take the money for education, it’s shouldn’t be considers a grant or money available at 17 or 18 to get your party on, the money is only invisible in education, housing, or continued investment in Kiwisaver

I own my own house, I don’t have children that would benefit under the KidKiwiSaver idea. My thoughts then are that if you can get people thinking about people, and all people thinking about the growth of the economy then this must be good for the proposing government in the short and long-term. The injection of money into the economy has to be good too. I’ll agree that this will not solve any house pricing issues as that of course is a sliding bar, supply and demand, but Kiwi-Build addresses affordable housing, right? They’re just ideas, not very good ideas possibly, but ideas that I’d be happy to support and vote for.


5 comments on “Labour and Socialism – lurch left.

  1. kingmidget
    September 24, 2014

    If the government is going to deposit money into the KidKiwiSaver account, why not require the parents to match it. Teach them to save for the future as well.


    • Philip Walter
      September 24, 2014

      The adult Kiwisaver does have a govt contribution that is predicated on you contributing to the account, something like $1024 a year.


      • kingmidget
        September 24, 2014

        Make them save for their kids’ future also. I’m a liberal. I believe government can do good things. But I see no reason the government should save for childrens’ future if the parents aren’t also.


      • Philip Walter
        September 24, 2014

        Fair point. A lot of the recent election campaign where the left wing got well and truly whitewashed didn’t have any strong what I would call social content. Perceived poverty and child poverty was an issue that tried to be raised but was coated in too much rhetoric. Similarly there was a large left wing envy politicking on the cost of housing. The Labour party promised to, improbably, built 10,000 houses in 10 years that were “affordable”. However it’s not clear where the land is, or how close to any amenities, transport or jobs there are. It’s also not clear why “affordable” and not “State or Government property” that is rented to the most impoverished and less well off.

        IN the past there was a weekly benefit paid for parents of children, this might have been rolled into a wider benefit, my though was to secure this benefit into a fund that set the child in the future outside of the influence or ability of the parents.

        My thinking was the the socialists need to really think big about re-connecting with people in way that seems to benefit everyone and gives some kind of warm feeling.

        I don’t either disagree with you about preparing for your children’s future by your own actions.


      • kingmidget
        September 25, 2014

        Like I said, I’m a liberal about a lot of things, but I tire of the idea that government should do everything. There’s something to be said for personal responsibility and not relying on government to do the things we should be doing for ourselves. Far too many times my fellow liberals (or socialists) fail to recognize the importance of personal responsibility. Damn, I’m starting to sound like a conservative.


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